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The Pocalypse (RP Discussion)

Postby Kevak » 04 Jan 2011, 01:39

this shall be the discussion thread




ash's question answer:

hot water doesn't really change the speed of the reaction but it does convert the water into a gas form which makes it slightly easier to control, the reaction doesn't exactly have a name since human scientists don't have the ability to cause it yet, its sorta like in chemistry where when elements react with each other and the protons/neutrons/electrons shift around and they bond with each other, this is a slightly more controlled version of it in which the p/n/e's are manually bonded into what the creature bonding them bonds them into instead of the compound that it would normally end up as
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Re: The Pocalypse (RP Discussion)

Postby ashendant » 04 Jan 2011, 07:36

Lukesf wrote:this shall be the discussion thread




ash's question answer:

hot water doesn't really change the speed of the reaction but it does convert the water into a gas form which makes it slightly easier to control, the reaction doesn't exactly have a name since human scientists don't have the ability to cause it yet, its sorta like in chemistry where when elements react with each other and the protons/neutrons/electrons shift around and they bond with each other, this is a slightly more controlled version of it in which the p/n/e's are manually bonded into what the creature bonding them bonds them into instead of the compound that it would normally end up as

Then that's not really a water controlled power is it? more like an atomic or specificly a nuclear reaction power since it requires to change the number of protons
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Re: The Pocalypse (RP Discussion)

Postby Kevak » 04 Jan 2011, 07:41

its more or less a nuclear reaction without the nuclear part and is managed with water
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Re: The Pocalypse (RP Discussion)

Postby ashendant » 04 Jan 2011, 08:07

Lukesf wrote:its more or less a nuclear reaction without the nuclear part and is managed with water

How? I mean there's a point where my suspension of disbelief can be dragged around, nuclear reactions require a lot of energy to do, also in chemistry the only thing that moves around is the electrons the protons don't, if you're changing the number of protons it becomes a nuclear reaction because it happens in the nucleus of the atom
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Re: The Pocalypse (RP Discussion)

Postby Kevak » 04 Jan 2011, 08:50

Again: its not a nuclear reaction, it does not require a nuclear reaction to change the number of protons, it just requires sufficient numbers of protons to adjust the atom and something to move said protons and possibly muffle the reaction should it end up in a state that it becomes a nuclear reaction which is exactly why water is used for this purpose, it can be used as a muffler And a adjuster.
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Re: The Pocalypse (RP Discussion)

Postby ashendant » 04 Jan 2011, 09:06

Lukesf wrote:Again: its not a nuclear reaction, it does not require a nuclear reaction to change the number of protons, it just requires sufficient numbers of protons to adjust the atom and something to move said protons and possibly muffle the reaction should it end up in a state that it becomes a nuclear reaction which is exactly why water is used for this purpose, it can be used as a muffler And a adjuster.

Altering the Protons happens in the nucleous so it's nuclear, also incredibly dangerous to fuse atoms you need very hot stuff like stars, you must be confusing it with messing around with electrons which is basic of chemistry, still you can't change H2O to Au using chemistry alone.
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Re: The Pocalypse (RP Discussion)

Postby Squizzel » 05 Jan 2011, 01:48

I have to agree with Ash here. If your changing the element, it's a nuclar reaction. Dosn't matter if it uses heat or not, it's still a nuclar reaction. As well as this, scients Can actully change something into gold (I think it was about old alchamists or something and they said lead) although it's actully more exspencive Than just buying gold. I do want to point out, that the second you fuse the water to the other element, it's no longer water and so (in theory) actully backfire and blow up, or make another element.
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Re: The Pocalypse (RP Discussion)

Postby Kevak » 05 Jan 2011, 03:27

Ash, it isn't changing H2O to Au, its using H2O as a muffler and as additional protons to alter various elements in a lump of rock into Au

Squizzel you are correct, it would have a chance to backfire or blow up, which is why water is used to muffle it to prevent a large explosion, you are also correct that it is no longer water the Moment it is fused, not before its fused, the way it works is there is a outer shell of water to muffle the explosion should there be one and a inner shell of water that is being fused.
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Re: The Pocalypse (RP Discussion)

Postby ashendant » 05 Jan 2011, 04:41

Lukesf wrote:Ash, it isn't changing H2O to Au, its using H2O as a muffler and as additional protons to alter various elements in a lump of rock into Au

Squizzel you are correct, it would have a chance to backfire or blow up, which is why water is used to muffle it to prevent a large explosion, you are also correct that it is no longer water the Moment it is fused, not before its fused, the way it works is there is a outer shell of water to muffle the explosion should there be one and a inner shell of water that is being fused.

However you can't use the power over water to do this, besides the extreme amounts of heat you need to contribute just to make them fuse, you need a very strong force to force the protons together, in stars this works as gravity and nuclear fusion reactors work as electromagnetic forces
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Re: The Pocalypse (RP Discussion)

Postby Kevak » 05 Jan 2011, 06:13

you don't use power over water as the force, you use the water to push the protons/neutrons/electrons together, and you don't need extreme amounts of heat, though it does help to have high heat levels, you don't need heat.
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